Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1457 I Avant to say that at the Chicago meeting Brother Keenan came to me and wanted to know if I would go along with the establishment of a committee of that kind. INIr. Owens. Yon mean Joe Keenan ? Mr. LiNDKLOF. Yes, Joe Keenan. I informed him I most certainly would go ah)ng with that because that was the proposal that I made previous to the Cincinnati meeting. Mr. Owens. Would you feel the internationals would have to give up their jurisdiction, their right to expel a local union for entering into an aarocment of that kind ? Mr. LiNDELoF. Well, of course, naturally laws would have to be drawn up in order to safeguard that. It was still labor settling its own disputes. Mr. Owens. In other words, there would have to be some arrange- ment made between the international whereby they would not inter- fere with that autonomous right, as you call it, of the locals to enter into an agreement to bring about that settlement of their disputes, is that correct ? ;Mr. LiNDELOF. It would not be an agreement. It should be an abso- lute mandate that all jurisdictions should be respected. Mr. Owens. Well, you see Mr. LiNDELOF. In my opinion, with this kind of a set-up it would be a matter of voluntary action, a voluntary set-up where everyone would respect the decisions that were made. In other words, volun- tary arbitration. ISIr. Owens. You would have sort of a horizontal union within the A. F. of L., wouldn't you ? Mr. LiNDELOF. Well, I don't know about that, no. They are all em- I)loyed in the studios there and I feel certain it could be handled in that manner. Mr. OwExs. Well, it sounds good to me, Mr. LiNDELOF. Wliat I was trying to get away from was some other kind of arbitration. This would be a voluntary arbitration set-up, and it could be worked out satisfactorily. Mr. Owens. That is the first time I have heard that arrangement sugggested, and I congratulate you on it. Thank you. That is all, Mr. Chairman. ^Ir. ]McCann. Mr. Lindelof, the advantage of the proposal that you made as against the proposal of the executive council was that had your suggestion been carried out, the men in the studios who were familiar with the historic activities of the various trades would have been the body that adjudicated the disputes? Mr. LiNDELOF. Tliat is right. Ml-. ]\[('Cann. Whereas, the president of the American Federation of I.,ab()r, upon the directive of the executive council, sent out three men who were not familiar with the o]ierations of the studios and they had only ?}0 days in which to trv to become familiar with those opera- tions and to dispose of the differences for all time. That is correct, is it not? Mr. LiNDELOF. That is correct. ^^^. ^McCann. Now, on the other hand, if your proposal had gone tlirough, the issues arising from day to day would have been disposed of by experts within the studios ?