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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1461 Mr. LiNDELOF. I did. Mr. McCann. I see no reason to clutter up the record by repeating this telegram which Avas addressed to Richard F. Walsh, president, International Alliance of Theatrical Stage and Moving Picture Operators of the United States and Canada, on March 16, 1945, and signed by William Green, president. Mr. Keakns. So ordered. ]Mr. McCanx. When was the so-called sanction of the strike? Mr. Ltxdelof. Which strike was that now, in 1945 ? Mr. JNIcOann". I assume so, and I assume he refers to your sanction or approval of it. Mr. Ltxdelof. I assume it was sometime in March, about 10 days or 2 weeks after the strike started. Mr. jMcCaxx. That disposes of the next question which asks if it is months later, and you said 2 weeks. Mr. Ltxdelof. Yes, something like that. Mr. ^NIcCaxn. Weren't your instructions disobeyed from March 13, 1945. until the time you sanctioned the strike? ]Mr. Ltxdelof. I would admit, yes, for those 10 days or 2 weeks. ;Mr. McCaxx. Didn't you sanction the strike because of the request of the carpenters ? ]\Ir. Ltxdelof. Oh, no, I did not. I was not dealing with the car- penters. I was dealing with my own members and my own representa- tives in the Hollywood studios. Mr. McCaxx. Didn't you permit Sorrell to take over in the painters' organization in California the following groups who were not painters: Office workers, exchange workers, screen-story analysts, set dressers, designers, cartooTiists, pTiblicists? Mr. Lixdelof. All of those that you mentioned, except the office workers, yes. We had a set designers' local union for years in Holly- wood, and they organized these people because they were coming Tuider our jurisdiction, set designers, cartoonists, and decorators. We organ- ized them and have had them for years, and have them now. Mr. Kearxs. Did their locals ask to affiliate with you? Mr. Ltxdelof. They did ask to become affiliated with us. They said either they go into the painters or they go into the CIO. NatiTrally, I do not want anyone to go into the CIO—not for that particular rea- son, but because of the fact that under our particular jurisdiction it was our work. Xow, then, with reference to the office workers, yes. We granted the office workers a charter and they had no license whatever to be in our intei-national union. ]\rr. Kearxs. How did you get away with that? ]\Ir. Ltxdelof. Oh, I got away with it fine. By the way, I am not the only one that has office workers. In fact, I haven't got any now, but some other internationals have a lot of them. I issued a charter when it became known that they would not affili- ate with any other body than tlie CIO. T finally agreed after aboTTt 8 months' bargaining—I agreed to issue the office workers a charter. On that charter I stipulated that if and when the American Federa- tion of Labor grants an interiuitional charter to the ollice workers I will (urn these office workers over to that international union.