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1462 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Two months after the charter was oranted to the International Union of Office Workers I turned over 3,000 office workers that I had in our organization to the proper international union where they belonged. Mr. Levy. Will you ask him about the publicists, please, because you put them all together, Mr. McCann ? Mr. Owens. You saved them from the terrible CIO ? Mr. LiNDELOF. That was all I was interested in. Mr. McCanx. Have you anything to add with respect to the pub- licists? Mr. LiNDELor. No. I claimed that they came under the jurisdiction of the Brotherhood of Painters and Decorators. We organized them, and they are in there. Mr. McCann. Continuing with Mr. Levy's questions: Was the sanc- tion that you referred to a while ago in writing? Mr. LiNDELOF. It was a telegram. Mr. McCann. Will you produce the written notice of sanction ? Mr. LiNDELOF. I will try to find it at the office and mail it in. Mr. Kearns. You will submit that to the committee, please ? Mr. LiNDELOF. Yes, sir. Mr. McCann. Continuing with Mr. Levy's questions: When the studio-office workers refused to go out on strike didn't you take disciplinary action against them? Mr. LiNDELOF. Not me. I don't know anything about it, in fact. Mr. McCann. We now have some questions by Mr. Zorn: In the Cincinnati meeting in October 1945 you agreed to be bound by the three-man committee decision; after that decision was issued in December 1945, did you take any steps to have the decision clarified, modified, or amended ? Mr. LiNDELOF. After the decision was rendered ? Mr. McCann. Yes, sir. Mr. LiNDELOF. Not I. Mr. McCann. After an international president has agreed to a final and binding decision, is it your opinion that it is proper for him to make efforts to get the decision changed? Mr. LiNDELOF. Yes; I believe so. Mr. McCann. Do you care to add anything to it? Mr. LiNDELOF. Yes; I would like to add something to it. Mr. McCann. Proceed. Mr. LiNDELOF. Because of the fact that this was a committee appointed by the American Federation of Labor, by the president of that organization, and while the decision of the committee was final and binding, I contend that where the committee probably was not as familiar with the important questions in the studios as they be, it would be open to anyone to correct them, to point out that there was a fault, that there was lack of information. Mr. McCann. Any further questions, gentlemen ? Mr. LiNDELOF. If someone else had not taken that action, probably I would have. Fortunately I got all the jurisdiction I always had there; in fact, I got more. Mr. Owens. Don't you feel, Mr. Lindelof, that the words "final and binding," if they are not obeyed by the leaders of labor, there never can be any peace in labor negotiations ?