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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1465 Mr. Kearns. Mr. Lindelof, do you consider you have local auton- omy in your union ? Mr. Lindelof. Oh, yes, Mr. Kearns. AVould you tell us for the record in just what capacity Mr. Sorrell functions for you and how it is related to the organization known as the Conference of Studio Unions, of which he is president? By your sanction is he also president of the Conference of Studio Unions ? Mr. Lindelof. He does not need any sanction. That is a set-up out of the international union. We have, of course, local union 644 and all the other local unions out there are affiliated with what is known as a district council. That, of course, is recognized by the international. Some of them are also affiliated with the State organization. The Conference of Studio Unions is a set-up within the studios and no particular international union controls it in any way whatsoever. The unions affiliated in there control it and they elect the officers. So far as Herb Sorrell's relationship to the international is con- cerned, he is the recognized business representative of local union 644 in Hollywood and also functions for all of the other local unions working in the studios and they have cooperated for many years. Mr. IvEARNs. Well, just answer my question one way. Your inter- national does not object to Mr. Sorrell's functioning in the position of ])resident of the Conference of Studio Unions? Mr. Lindelof. No. Mr. Kearns. Although he is the business agent of your union on the coast? Mr. Lindelof. No: we have no objection to him acting as such. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Lindelof, I want to thank you for coming before the committee here and offering the testimony you have. We would like to have Mr. Hutcheson return to the stand at this time. TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM L. HUTCHESON—Recalled Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, we have certain questions submitted by Mr. Levy yesterday that we did not reach. Since we have already received the minutes of the Miami and Chicago meetings of the American Federation of Labor's executive council, I think we should also have the Washington minutes of May 1946 copied in full in the record. That is a statement of fact by Mr. Levy, Mr. Chairman, for 3'ou to pass upon. Mr. Levy. It is a request made by me, sir. Mr. McCann. I do not have a copy of those minutes, Mr. Chairman, or I would be glad to look over them. Mr. Kearns. I would rule accordingly that I will read the minutes and then rule on it, if it is important to the testimony. Mr. Levy. It has been testified to, sir, in part, and whenever any- one refers to minutes the practice has been for Mr. McCann to ask for the full minutes to be produced. My suggestion is and ni}^ request is that the same procedure be adopted here, that whenever any witness refers to minutes that Mr.