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1466 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES McCann, at my suggestion, ask the witness to produce the entire minutes so that the record can be complete. Mr. McCann. Mr. Hutcheson, have you the minutes of the Wash- ington meeting ? Mr. Hutcheson. I think, Mr. Chairman, the record of yesterday will show that I presented them. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, I did not know that the Washington minutes—and I say this for the record—were material to the matter. If you will recall, you requested more than a month ago that Mr. Green should provide you with the Miami, the Cincinnati, and the Chicago minutes, which were not provided. We then subpenaed Mr. Meany. H3 avoided service of that subpena and I then followed up by calling Mr. Hutcheson's office in Indiana and asking for these things. Mr. Keakns. We know all about it. The Chair has submitted a ruling on these minutes. Mr. Owens. In other words, Mr. Chairman, inasmuch as they were read, if there should be any mistake, I suggest Mr. Hutcheson submit a copy of those minutes, and that will correct any possible error. Mr. Kearns. Very well. Mr. McCann. Since the minutes of the April 14,1946, general con- vention of the carpenters have been referred to, I think all of them haying any bearing on this controversy should be read into the record. Do you make the same ruling, Mr. Chairman ? Mr. Kearns. Same ruling. Mr. Levy. May I ask what that ruling is, Mr. Chairman? Mr. Kearns. To submit them to me and I will order them in. Mr. Levy. Order them in the record ? Mr. Kearns. After I read them. Mr. McCann. If they are material, you say ? Mr. Kearns. That's right; if they are material to the case. Mr. Levy. If it involves the Hollywood jurisdictional strife. Mr. Kearns. If it involves the Hollywood jurisdictional case, they will be read into the record. I have already made the ruling, Mr. Levy. Mr. McCann. In May 1946, when the executive council of the A. F. of L. was in session, didn't you, in the absence of Mr. Walsh and any other representative of the lATSE, seek to and did persuade the executive council to direct the three-man committee to issue the clari- fication you wanted? Mr. Hutcheson. The records of yesterday, Mr. Chairman, will show that. Mr. McCann. Did not you and your organization, together with the other international unions, make a no-strike pledge during wartime to the President of the United States? Mr. Hutcheson. I think the records will show that, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McCann. Didn't you know that in March 1945 the National War Labor Board stated, "This strike constitutes a flagrant disregard of labor's no-strike pledge to the President, and of the procedures established for the peaceful settlement of labor disputes in time of war"? Mr. Hutcheson. Mr. Chairman, I think the records of yesterday Avill show my answer to that question. Mr. McCann. You testified that you claim the 1921 agreement was binding. Didn't you write Pat Casey on February 17, 1945, that, "As