Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1469 ail iiivestij^atioii, and that was ])resented to the executive council who in tui'ii tohl theiii to issue a chiritication based upon evidence that they liad not even lieard. Mr. IIuTCHKSox. Conoressnian, would you keep this thouc;ht in mind, i)lease^ Tliere .was nothing- in Flanagan's report in reference to clarification. He merely made a report as to what conditions he found. Now, natui'ally, had tlie council, having instructed President Green to api)oint someone to make a report as to what he found—naturally that brought the discussion before the council. It was not any new evidence at all, but merely a request from the three-man committee to define what they meant when they put out their decision or their directive. Mr. Owens. Insofar as Mr. Flanagan was concerned then anyone of us here could have gone out and found that the carpenters were no longer working there; the painters Avere still out on strike; the machinists were not going- through the picket lines; the teamsters were going through the picket lines, and the lA was contracting with the producers. Did they need Mr. Flanagan to still find that out? Mr. McCaxn. Mr. Chairman, may I explain to him there was no strike at the time? JVIr. Ow^ENS. Just a moment, please. I ask that I be permitted an answer to the question just asked, Mr. Chairman. iVIr. McCaxx. Well, Mr. Chairman, I am Mr. OwEXS. Please, Mr. jVfcCann, we are the investigators here. Mr. Hutcheson, did you lose that question now after all that work? Mr. HuTCHESox. I don't know what is in your mind, I am not a mindreader. I am not opposed to you expressing your thoughts. Mr. Owens. I think I made a statement about what we could all find as well as Mr. Flanagan. What I am pointing out is that he had handed his statement back to the executive council and they in turn said to the committee, "Now, here we have some additional facts which we think justify your making a clarification. You go out and make a clarification of that.'' Those three did not hear the evidence of any of these other unions. Mr. HuTCHESOx. My dear Congressman, if you will recall, yesterday I put in the record a communication from the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America by the general secretary, by order first of the convention and then the executive board of the brotherhood. The May records will show^ that was in the records and I read it yester- day in the report, that the May meeting was discussing that communi- cation when it was suggested that President Green appoint someone to see what the then conditions were in Hollywood. The communication from the Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America was laid over from the May meeting to the August meet- ing. By August, Mr. Green did have the report back from Mr. Flanagan. However, they also had laid over for consideration at that meeting the commuiiicati(m from the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America. Mr. Kearns. ]\Ir. Hutcheson, at point did the council consider Mr. Flanagan as an authority on hdjor as it is handled in the studios? Mr. Hi'TciiEsox'. Well, Mr. Chairman, as one member of the council I do not think we consider him an authority any more than someone 67383—48—vol. 2 28