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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1471 Mr. Owens. I am asking counsel if any testimony was submitted to Mr. Flanagan to base his statements upon. I have not yet received an answer to it. Mr. Kearns. No testimony out there by the three-man committee or Mr. Flannagan was taken under oath by anyone. It was just merely testimony, period. Remember that. That settles that once and for all. Tlie only testimony taken under oath in Hollywood was what we took under oath. Mr. McCann. No further questions. Mr. Kearns. Any further questions? Mr. Owens. 1 hope that Mr. McCann, in getting answers to his questions expects the witness to give him better answers than were given to me, Mr. Chairman. Go ahead, Mr. Hutclieson, with your testimony. Mr. Landis. Well, Mr. Owens, the point I thought he made was he said there was no evidence that would affect the decision. That was tlie main point I got out of his answer, that there was no evidence presented to the three-man committee. Mr. HuTCHEsoN. ]Mr. Chairman, I might clarify that to say there was no evidence other than to show that there was a sort of guess as to what was meant by the directive. I would not say with every- one, but with many people or manj'^ of those who were connected with this matter. Mr. Owens. Mr. Hutcheson, I think it is within your power to do a great deal in this case. Will you try to do your best to end this situation that exists out there? Mr. HuTCHEsoN. Well, in just what way; what is your idea? Mr. Owens. Use your power as a leader of labor. Mr. Hutcheson. I haven't any power. I am just an ordinary human being. I am not a dictator. Mr. Owens. Suppose I assume that you have it, will you do your best? Mr. Hutcheson. I have always been ready to do anything I possibly could, that would be in the interest of the members that I represent. Mr. Owens. You say what you have always been, but are you ready to do it now ? Mr. Hutcheson. I have lived so long, Congressman, I do not have time left in life to change. Mr. Owens. Neither one of us have a great deal of time left in life, but I was wondering whether in that time you do have left, you will make some effort to get the situation alleviated out there? Mr. Hutcheson. Well, if you have some idea I could accept that would be helpful to our members Mr. Owens. Mr. Lindelof just suggested a very good plan. Mr. Hutcheson. I suggested something yesterday. Mr. Owens. Did you? Mr. Hutcheson. The basic agreement. Mr. Owens. It seems to me that the basic agreement and Mr. Lindelof's idea could be functioned together. Mr. Hutcheson. The two could be correlated together, perhaps. Mr. Owens. Will you try to do that? Mr. Hutcheson. t will try to do anything within my power that will be helpful to the members I represent.