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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1479 However, the directive did make mention of the machinists, and since the machinists were then disassociated from the American Fed- eration of Labor, we did hear testimony from the machinists. Had the directive included the producers, we wouhi have heard them, too. Mr. Kearns. The second question from Mr. Zorn: In the executive council meetings in August 1946, wtien your committee was instructed to prepare a clarification of the December 26, 1945, docislou, was any representative of the lATSE or the producers consulted or heard prior to the issuance of the clarification? Mr. DoHERTY. Does he mean consulted by our committee? Mr. Kearxs. I could not speak for him. Mr. ZoRN. The executive council meeting. Mr. Kearns. Was any representative of the lATSE or the producers heard prior to your three-man committee issuing the clarification? Mr. DouERiTT. None were contacted by me. I doubt if any were contacted by any others. Mr. Kearns. These are questions from Mr. Bodle for the painters: In your testimony at Los Angeles, you stated under no circumstances did this committee intend that work then being done by the lATSE should be turned over to the carpenters, or that such work then being done by the carpenters should be turned over to the lATSE? Mr. DoHERTY. That is a true statement. Our position today is just what it was then. It has been repeated over and over in the record, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Kearns. No. 2: You also stated that you did not intend by your decision to disturb historical craft jurisdiction. Mr. DoHERTY. That is a true statement. Mr. Kearns. No. 8: In the Los Angeles testimony you stated that the clarification set forth our own opinions— if I was ever a school teacher again I would give a special course in penmanship to attorneys— and that no one interfered therewith. I will read that all again: In Los Angeles you stated that the clarification set forth our own opinions— you are speaking of the three-man committee— and that no one interfered therewith. Do you still stand by that statement ? Mr. DoHERTY. That question is a little vague. I wish you would be specific. Mr. Owens. I don't think there is any need to answer that, Mr. Chairman, because the other day wiien Mr. Doherty testified he stated quite clearly that if he had to do it over again he would render the very same decision. Mr. Doherty. Absolutely. Mr. KEARNS. The fourth question: In Los Angeles you testified neither Hutcheson nor anyone else Mr. Doherty. May I interrupt you, Mr. Chairman, to say to Con- gressman Owens, if I had it to do over again they would never put me on this committee.