Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

1494 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. Landis. Was tliat agreed to b}' the Internationals, too ? Was that a complete agreement ? Mr. Walsh. I would like to explain to you how that happened, if I can. I find in our convention proceedings—and I have to go back now, because I was not the president at that time—but I find in our convention proceedings that at a meeting of the American Federa- tion of Labor, at which Brother Hutcheson and Mr. Canavan—Hutch- eson, the president of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters, and Canavan, the president of the lATSE, attended—they agreed at that time to send representatives out to Hollywood to see if they could not arrive at an agreement in 1925. I find that in the record of our convention. If you will permit me, I would like to have our attorney read that part of the convention minutes, because I think it is very important. People are trying to say there is some deception here. I would like to prove to this committee there is no deception so far as we are con- cerned. Now, if anybody else is deceiving people, let them answer for themselves, but as far as I am concerned there is no deception here. Mr. McCann. Mr. Chairman, I would like counsel to read what appears in that record, if you have no objection. Mr. Walsh. These are the official proceedings of our international convention. This is the report of our then international president to the convention. Mr. Levy. I will be glad to read it. [Reading:] Proceedings of the Twenty-eighth Convention of the International Alli- ance OF Theatrical Stage Employees and Moving Picture Machine Opera- tors of the United States and Canada, Held in Hotel Winton, Cleveland, Ohio, June 21 to 25, 192G, Inclusive president's report AGREEMENT WITH CARPENTERS While in attendance at the convention of the American Federation of Labor at El Paso, Tex , the qnestion of the nonnnion conditions obtaining in and about the motion-picture studios upon the west coast was discussed with President William L. Hutcheson of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners, who agreed to permit his local unions in Los Angeles to enter into a new agree- ment with our Los Angeles local union so that the question of jurisdictional misunderstanding might be clarified. On the 5th day of February 1925 an agreement was entered into between a committee representing the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America and a committee representing our International Alliance, composed of Vice President Cleve Beck, AVilliam H. Honeyhugh, H. B. Newman, and John J. Riley. This agreement is to apply to the motion-picture studios located in Los Angeles County and to replace the former agreement between the re- spective organizations. A spirit of friendship and fair dealing between the carpenters' organization and our own international has been one of the important developments of the agreement reached. That was printed in 1926. Mr. Owens. Might I ask a question, Mr. Chairman? Mr. Kearns. Yes. Mr. Owens. Is that the agreement of February 5,1925 ? Mr. Walsh. Yes, sir. Also I have here a photostat of our official bulletin that was printed in 1926. I would like to have counsel read what is in that bulletin about that agreement. Mr. IvEARNS. No objection.