Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1497 Mr. Kearns. What year was that? Mr. Walsh. This was in January of 1946, a very few days after the agreement was sent to us. I told President Green and 1 told the committee that President Green, the committee, Dick AValsh, or the council of the American Federation of Labor did not have any right to change this agree- ment. Although Ave lost in every section except under the United Brotherhood of Car])enters, we had no right to ask them to change the agreement. We had no right to ask them to give us back the wind machines. AVe had no right to ask them to give us the set decorators and that they had no right to give them to us even if we asked for them. I nuist have put up a pretty good argument because they adjourned and went to work on the council. Now you have heard read here the minutes of the council meeting in Miami.' Mv. Kearxs. Thej^ are all in the record. Mr. Walsh. There has been something said in the record here that the committee did not know the 1926 agreement was being worked under or they did not understand that. I say that in the records of those minutes the 1926 agreement was talked about. I heard it read here where Hutcheson said he never approved that agreement and he would not work under it. That is his own statement at the^ council. If there was anj- change to be made it should have been made tlipn and not later on. The}' argued amongst themselves, as the minutes will show. We were not in there, the employers were not in there and the lATSE was not in there. Later on we were asked to come into the meeting of the council of the American Federation of Labor and explain our side of the case again. The employers were present; the lATSE was present. T^ell, this whole subject matter was hashed over. This was in Miami. I am talking about the same meeting in January. After we talked it over we left again and left it up to the council of the American Federation of Labor. These various motions that were read and the various arguments put up by Brother Hutcheson inside the council, with nobody there beside himself, and where nothing was done, the council said they would not change this agreement one iota, they would not change a conmia or a period in it—they then came out to the employers or to myself and said, "We are not going to change it, but we have arranged another meeting between President Walsh ancl President Hutcheson and two members of the committee—because I believe Broth(!r Knight had left at this time—to see if we cannot find some way out of this." So we sat for some 3 hours and talked this over after the council meeting. Of course, Brother Hutcheson still insisted he was going to have all carpentry work and Brother Walsh still insisted he was not, so we got no place. They went back into the council meeting again, and finally decided' that as far as the council was concerned it was closed; that the original directive would stand; leave it the way it was.