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1500 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES such decisions and determinations as the executive council committee of three may finally render." And he put great stress on that "may finally render." I think he was grasping at another straw to see if he could not find some way to continue this argument and I was not pleased with that. I do not think the counsel should do that. Mr. Landis. Where is Mr. McCann ? Mr. Kearns. He just stepped out a minute. Mr. Walsh. Perhaps I should not say it while he is out. Mr. Kearns. You might repeat it Avhen he comes back in. Mr. Owens. I don't think it needs repetition. Mr. Walsh. He can read the record anyway. This is the final paragraph of the committee's decision before they put in the various findings for the organizations: Accordingly this decision is based on the premise and the below listed con- clusions are final and binding on all parties concerned. Now, if that was not their final and binding conclusion, what was? As I say to you, Mr. Chairman, we can go on and talk; you can investigate; everybody can make speeches. This comes down to just one thing: Did the people who make this agreement have a word ? Were they going to live up to it or were they going to find some technical way to worm out of it as they have in other agreements? Now, if that is the fortes of the carpenters* organization they will never have respect for any organization. I thought the carpenters' organiza- tion would have been big fellows if they had said, "All right, we agree to that and we will fincl some way to settle it amongst ourselves some other time, but we will live up to what we agreed to." As far as the Hollywood strike is concerned, the Hollywood strike is over. Production in the studios, so far as the mechanical crafts are concerned, is normal. So far as employment is concerned, it is below normal because production is below normal. Not because of any strike trouble out there. The only thing this committee can do if it puts out any adverse report, is to generate some more trouble in Hollywood. You will not settle any trouble by setting forth any findings tKat these people will be able to sink their teeth into and that the papers will be able to play up and say the trouble is still going on there. My advice to the committee—and I probably have no right to give advice—is to leave it alone. If the carpenters want to go back to work, there is still an open shop out there. The carpenters can go to work. If the painters want to go to work, there is an open shop out there. The painters can go to work. I think harmony would reign supreme if they would just leave us alone. Now, Mr. Chairman, I am here and am willing to answer any ques- tion that you or any other member of the committee would like to ask me about this thing. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Owens. Mr. Owens. That was a very detailed statement, very clear and con- cise. I have heard nothing better in the whole hearing. I have no. questions to ask.