Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

1536 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES flict for supremacy in our opinion would later result between these two forces. Mr. Hutcheson would not accept dictation from the Communist Party, and if the Conference of Studio Unions ever eliminated the lATSE, Mr. Hutcheson would quickly find out how little real economic strength he has in the studios. I want to make this clear on behalf of the lA. This congressional committee is charged with the responsibility of investigating the Hollywood labor situation. You can no more investigate the war, the Second World War, without investigating the Stalin-Hitler pact Mr. Kearns. All right. At this point I want to tell you again, Mr. Levy, that I have followed out the orders of the chairman of the full committee, the Honorable Fred A. Hartley, Jr., and until I am instructed to go into the communistic angle of this situation, I will not not do it. It is up to him to say whether another committee will be appointed or whether he wishes to turn it over to the Un-American Activities Committee. I am not in any way slighting you in presenting your testimony, I am only stating the fact of my orders. Mr. Levy. Mr. Kearns, I appreciate that, and of course I do abide by your rulings. Mr. Landis. Let me make an inquiry. I notice, according to the testimony you read there that the Communists had taken over this local in your organization. Is that correct ? Mr. Levy. That is correct, sir. Mr. Landis. Of course, the part that seems to me to be testimony for the Un-American Activities Committee is that part which says this jurisdictional strife was caused by the Conference of Studio Unions and Communist-led strikes. Of course, the testimony given before that committee takes in and jeopardizes the carpenters' union. Mr. Hutcheson testified yesterday that they had in their constitution the fact that they do not allow Communists in their organization. According to testimony given before the other committee this was a Communist-led strike ; they took over your local and they have taken over some of the other locals in the Conference of Studio Unions. I think this is a pretty vital and important point to bring out. I think before we close the hearing that is the only part left in the controversy, with the exception that, as I understand it, Mr. Hutcheson denied yesterday accepting the '25 agreement, and Mr. Walsh said they accepted the '25 agreement. If this was a Communist-led strike and some of those unions are trying to clean it up, I think we ought to find out before the close of the hearing, from the chairman, whether we will have one witness from each side to present the case. That would be my suggestion, that one witness from each side would present their side of that Communist activity. I want to be fair to both sides. I do not want to give one side an opportunity and not the other side. Mr. Kearns. Mr. Landis, as ranking member of the committee, I am only too glad to follow out my orders, but if you wish to serve the chairman of the full committee with me about the situation and he orders me or someone else to go into it, I would be very happy to do so. Mr. Landis. That would be my suggestion, to contact Mr. Hartley. I make the suggestion we let each side pick out one man, and let them