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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1537
present their case on this part of it. There has been testimony that Sorrell was a Communist back in 1937. He might have been one then, but he might not be one now.
It is intimated that the carpenters are Communists out there.
Mr. LE^^^ Not by me, sir.
Mr. Landis. No; I do not say that, but they are in the Conference of Studio Unions now.
Mr. Kearxs. They are all together.
Mr. Levy. I said they were all working together, that is right. I made that position very clear on our behalf, each for his own purpose.
Mr. Kearns. Mr. Landis, I also want you to appreciate the position I am in.
Mr. Landis. Yes ; I realize the situation.
Mr. Kearns. I am willing to go along on this matter. At the discretion of the chairman of the full committee, I believe you would like to have that so ordered, is that correct ?
Mr. Landis. I would like to have him contacted.
Mr. Kearns. We will stand in recess until 2 :30 p. m. this afternoon.
(Whereupon, at 12 :10 p.m., a recess was taken until 2 :30 p.m. of the same day.)
afterngon session
(The subcommittee reconvened at 2 : 30 p. m.)
Mr. Kearns. I am just merely calling the meeting to order. We will adjourn until the call of the Chair, which should be 15 or 20 minutes.
(A short recess was taken.)
Mr. Landis. The committee will come to order.
Since the testimony this morning that was brought out by Judge Levy that the communistic part was an important thing to the solution of this problem and since several statements have been made against the committee and about the committee, not giving a fair deal on both sides, we are going to open up the Communist question. It will be fully discussed on each side. Let the chips fall where they may.
The past proceedings were under the direction of Congressman Kearns of Pennsylvania. The proceedings from here on will be conducted by Congressman Kearns as subcommittee chairman ; Congressman Fisher, of Texas; Congressman Wood, of Georgia; Congressman Owens, of Illinois, and myself from Indiana.
Mr. Kearns, you take the chair.
(Mr. Kearns assumed the chair.)
Mr. Kearns. ]\Ir. Landis, at the request of the chairman of the full committee, Hon. Fred A. Hartley. Jr., with you as acting chairman of the committee, I think it only fair at this time to mention I have kept this communistic ansrle out of the labor relations situation in the motion picture jurisdictional dispute purposely, because I felt I was not so charged to enter into this phase of the situation.
However, I have just been informed by phone, bv Mr. Hartley, and have confirmed it with the acting chairman and ranking member of the committee, the Honorable Mr. Landis, of Indiana, that we shall develop the communistic angle of the jurisdictional dispute.
However, I want it fully understood by all persons involved that this is purely a part, now, of the proceedings and hearings pertaining