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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 1561
"Well, that was not decided upon right away ; but evidently a little later some situations developed in Chicago and other places which forced us intO' a meeting.
At that meeting, which was held in Xew York City and attended by the presidents of the companies and the other international miions who were signatories to the basic agreement, the lATSE came back under the basic agreement.
Shortly after that a local known as No. 37 of the lATSE had some members who started some legal actions in the city of Los Angeles. Those actions went on in the courts for quite a while until it eventually wound up before the National Labor Relations Board, which had come into existence during this time.
At that time an election was held. The election gave the work to the international of the lATSE.
Thereupon the representative of the international lATSE proceeded to divide local 37 into several unions, which he did. That was about the time that any serious jurisdictional question commenced to show itself.
I may say that from that time until now that jurisdiction has been creeping under different conditions and has gotten to be a very serious situation.
Now we go along to 1945.
In 1942, at a meeting in New York between the international representatives and the local unions under their jurisdiction the property men demanded that we make a deal covering the so-called — well, I will call them set dressers ; that is the way I know them.
We had had a contract with those set dressers, not as a union but as a society. That was a 5 -year contract. That contract provided — at least a certain clause in it did — that if the organization decided to affiliate with any other labor organization the producers had a right to either accept the affiliation as the representative of the society or they had a right to cancel the contract.
Well, both sides commenced to wrangle then. There were some elections held, and the set dressers decided to affiliate with the set dosigners, who are chartered under the International Brotherhood of Painters.
We were then in a position where we would either have to cancel the contract or accept the change-over from their organization to the set designers.
I prevailed upon them that since the National Labor Relations Board was in existence, to clear the thing once and for all ; please go before the National Labor Relations Board; have an election; when that is set aside I will be glad to sit down and deal with you.
Well, you have heard the testimony here. I do not think there is any need of my repeating it that that was started, then it got into the War Labor Board and then the strike happened. There you are as to that situation.
Now we go along. As I say, there are still these jurisdictional things coming up to the point where there got to be stoppages around the studios.
Gentlemen, a studio is a little bit different than any other branch of business. If there were cameras here now and this whole situation, as we sit in this room, was to be a part of a picture and something