Jurisdictional disputes in the motion-picture Industry : hearings before a special subcommittee of the Committee on Education and Labor, House of Representatives, Eightieth Congress, first-session, pursuant to H. Res. 111 (1948)

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1584 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES Mr. HuTCHESON. I don't consider they are lost, they are just waiting. You get them later on. Mr. Owens. Assuming it is lost, then, do you see any reason why the unions who fought among themselves and who were responsible for the loss should not be liable for damages for that loss? Mr. HuTCHESON. Congressman, you should keep this thought in mind : In ordinary times, a carpenter, if he gets 200 days' work in a year, is lucky. So, if he leaves the job and is gone 10 or 20 days, he knows when he goes back he is still going to get that much work during that year, so he has not lost anything. Mr. Owens. I am not talking about what the carpenters alone have lost, although I have a great deal of sympathy for many workmen who are put out because of strikes Mr. HuTCHESON. Who are you thinking about, now ? Mr. Owens. Any workman who loses because of a jurisdictional strike that could be settled by the leadership of the organization. Mr. HuTCHESoN. In other w^ords, as a Congressman, are you thinking of the public, what you usually term "the public"? Mr. Owens. I must admit that that is true, that I think of the public first. Mr. HuTCHESON. You do not think the building tradesmen, carpenters and others who are trade-unionists are part of the public? ISIr. Owens. I just said they are part of the public. I consider the workman who has lost his work a part of the public. Mr. HuTCHESON. I thought you might be a little biased on that because of the Taft-Hartley law, class legislation. Mr. Owens. Don't forget, Mr. Hutcheson, my father was a carpenter and I worked in a machine shop for a long while. Mr. Hutcheson. So was Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was a carpenter, according to the records. Mr. Owens. I am not kin to Him. I worked in a machine shop, too, and if you look at my past record you will not find anything in it but my sympathy for the laboring man. Mr. Hutcheson. You know, that "mike" kind of deadens your voice to me. Mr. Owens. I am doing that because you have been having difficulty hearing me when I stand back here. Now, let's get right back down to that question again. Mr. Hutcheson. Which one ? Mr. Owens. The jurisdictional question. Have you any idea as to how long it should be before you settle your jurisdictional disputes, and if you don't settle them, don't you think you ought to be liable for damages for losses sustained because of a jurisdictional dispute ? Mr. Hutcheson. Have you any particular jurisdictional dispute in mind when you ask me that question ? Mr. Owens. Well, let's take this 3-year-old dispute going on right now. Mr. Hutcheson. Where ? Mr. Owens. In Hollywood. Mr. Hutcheson. Oh, that. I don't know. It all depends on when our carpenters can get what rightfully belongs to them and then as far as we are concerned it will be all settled. Mr. Owens. We are getting letters and telegrams from hundreds of people saying they are out of work out there because of this trouble.