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1680 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
sit down and get together and talk. You evidently did not get veryfar, but yet that was the very thing you did with the electricians.
Mr. Walsh. That is right.
Mr. Kj5Arns. I think that clears the record pretty well so far as the committee is concerned.
Mr. Walsh. And I hope as far as counsel is concerned.
Mr. Landis. The point I thought he was trying to bring out was that the electrical workers were losing some work by the agreement. Of course, whether that had any bearing on the case or not, I don't know.
Mr. Walsh. That is what I was wondering about, what difference would it make whether the electrical workers lost it or we lost it.
Mr. Landis. Just as long as there was agreement between the two^ probably somebody had to lose.
Mr. Walsh. Certainly, but some people might get the impression we should not do that again.
Mr. Kearns. It was true in this agreement you signed, some of the work you had been doing it was agreed you should continue to do^ and they got other work they probably had not had before, and so forth.
Mr. Walsh. Mr. Mulkey explained it very well. The main thing we sold to ourselves was the fact that in this sound department the high paid jobs were controlled by the lATSE. That was jurisdiction that we had. The lower paid jobs where the people belonged to the IBEW, that came under their jurisdiction.
These men were qualified to go up the ladder, and some day they might get on one of these higher paid jobs if they belonged to the lATSE. The agreement was made for that reason.
Mr. Kearns. Mr. Counsel, there is one thing I think you should bear in mind. Mr. Walsh gave testimony here that he would like to have every job in the studio and did not make any bones about it, is that correct ?
Mr. Walsh. Of course I didn't make any bones about it but everybody does not agree with me. That is the trouble I have with it.
Mr. Landis. Isn't the expansion of some unions due to the progress in industry?
Mr. Walsh. There are many causes out there, Congressman. Originally the lATSE had all the jobs in the studios when we started out but they were small studios and as the industry grew and new methods grew, new trades came in there.
At the present time we have a slight dispute out there over plastics. Plastics are something new. Things that we used to make out of plaster we are now making out of plastic. Things we used to make out of metal we are now making out of plastic and covering with metal, so that will cause a little dispute between us, but we expect to iron it out among ourselves.
We can do it if people will leave us alone and not agitate the thing too much.
I have been here for quite a time. Congressman. There is an executive board meeting called by law in our lATSE which starts Monday morning. I have to be there to preside over that. I did want to have our counsel there. Now I understand you are going to meet next week, is that correct ?