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MO'lIO-N -PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 2211
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Walsh advises that any company that makes one single change in the administration of the A. F. of L. directive in compliance with the new interpretation will have all work stopped in the studios, exchanges, and theaters.
That was nearly 3 weeks before Mr. Cambiano's appearance before the committee with what is termed the ultimatum. Here was an ultimatum that if they made one single change
Mr. Landis. That was after the contract was signed ?
Mr. Cobb. That was after the contract was signed.
If they make one single change, all work will be stopped in the studios. That means a strike by the lA in the studios, in the exchanges ; that means a strike in the distribution of the films, and in the theaters ; that means a strike in the exhibition of the films.
Those four lines are of great significance.
Mr. Landis. Didn't the carpenters come along later and make about the same proposition ?
Mr. Cobb. I am taking it chronologically.
Mr. Landis. All right, proceed.
Mr. Cobb. Here is the threat by the lA to strike in the studios, exchanges, and theaters.
Now, to strike upon what ? Upon —
any one single change in the administration of the A. F. of L. directive in compliance with the new interpretation.
That is the same as if they said — an act of Congress was passed; a court has interpreted that act of Congress as to its meaning; but "we will close your studios, exchanges, and theaters if you accept that interpretation by the courts."
Because, mind you, the executive council of the A. F. of L. is its court.
Mr. McCann. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Cobb, Now, Mr. Landis, we asked that this threat
Mr. Landis. They did not say strike ?
Mr. Cobb. Well, we said threat or strike.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Landis, there is ample testimony received from the industry representatives to the effect that the way they interpreted that was that if they made the slightest change in the directive of December 26, 1945, the studios would be closed and the motion-picture theaters would be closed. They had to choose between the threat of the lA and the threat of the carpenters. That is in the record in different places.
Mr. Landis. There is no difference between their threat and the carpenters' threat. Here they put the employer in the middle.
Mr. Cobb. No. What I want to make clear
Mr. Landis. The point I want you to make clear to me is tliat there was certain work the carpenters were doing before the contract was made; there was certain work done after the contract was made, whether it was the same work they had been doing or not ; and then up to the ultimatum, if the same work was carried on up to the ultimatum, the question I am asking is. How did the producers break the contract ?