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2222 MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES
satisfactory, and they are willing to have an interpretation of it. That is why they went to Miami, wasn't it ?
Mr. Cobb. Yes.
Mr. Landis. That is why they were in the middle ?
Mr. Cobb. No ; they were not in the middle ; they were in bed with the lA, Mr. Landis. I don't mean to speak lightly when making that statement.
Mr. Landis. The point I am trying to make is that the companies tried to abide by the directive ; the carpenters did not think they were, and they then asked in the meeting for the clarification, isn't that right?
Mr. Cobb. You are mistaken in one sense, Mr. Landis. The companies did not tr}^ to abide by the directive. The companies tried to give the lA the set erectors' work to the carpenters and the companies were working in conspiracy with the I A to take the work away from the carpenters.
Mr. Landis. But the carpenters, under contract, under the contract of July, went ahead and gave the lA the set erectors' work, isn't that right 'i
Mr. Cobb. Oh, no, indeed.
Mr. Landis. Who did that work before the July contract?
Mr. Cobb. The work was being done in July under the continuing protest
Mr. Landis. Let us say in June.
Mr. Cobb. Let's say that the work was done from January to July and from July to September under the continuing protest of the carpenters, but in the goodness of their hearts, pending a decision on the meaning of the directive, the carpenters were not striking against the companies and were not closing down.
Mr. Kearns. They were still working under the Beverly Hills agreement, were they not?
Mr. Landis. That is right.
Mr. Cobb. And the Beverly Hills agreement
Mr. Landis. In July.
Mr. Cobb. That is right.
Mr. Kearns. That cannot be overlooked. If Pat Casey had the authority to sign that agreement for the producers and Sorrell for the Conference of Studio Unions, it was an agreement, evidently.
Mr. Cobb. Oh, certainly.
Mr. Kearns. The producers wanted the work done at that time, that is why there was the Beverly Hills agreement.
Mr. Landis. I can't see where they broke the contract ; that is what I can't see.
Mr. Kearns. What I have never been able to see is where anybody, particularly, broke the Beverely Hills contract.
Mr. Landis. That is what I am trying to bring out.
Mr. Cobb. I am coming to that.
Mr. McCann. Mr. Cobb, may I interrupt you to develop two things which I think Mr. Landis ought to understand before you come to the next subject? First we had repeated statements by the three-man committee in Los Angeles that it was their intent to give the work to the unions on historic lines.
Mr. Doherty, Mr. Knight, and Mr. Birthright, testifying before the committee, said that in the issuance of the directive of December 26, 1945, they thought that they were carrying out an agreement