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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 2393
Mr. Owens. So you considered your service with the city of Los Aniicles dating from some time in 1936 to about 1942, with this time out ?
Mr. EopjxsoN. Yes, with the time out. "Wlien the frequency change job was completed I lost out on another good job, incidentally, because I had been out of their employ for over the 60day period. I had taken an examination for engineer at Boulder Dam and had topped the list of that examination. Five hundred and eighty-four took that examination and I landed on top of it. I was about to be appointed to the job when they looked up my record and found out I had been out over the 60 days. They called for a physical recheck, then, of course, when a physical recheck came up I was reexamined by the bureau doctor.
Mr. Owens. During the time you were there, did j^ou have any more experience with Sorrell or any contact with him in any way'^
Mr. Robinson. After I left?
Mr. Owens. While you were with the city of Los Angeles.
Mr. EoBiNsoN. Oh, no, I got out of the labor picture. Wliile I was with the civil service, I still retained my membership in the engineers. I later transferred from 63 down to the one at the harbor, 235, and was finally elected vice president of 235. Then I was chairman — I used to conduct their apprentice school for them. I conducted that at the city hall. I used to conduct an apprentice school there three nights a week for our apprentices.
Mr. Owens. At the time you were there with him on the strike, did you observe his acquaintanceship, if any, w^ith the police, and what it was?
Mr. Robinson. Well, it wasn't very cordial. The police didn't like him.
Mr. Owens. I see. Did he know any of the chiefs of police there or officers that you know of ? Did you observe that ?
Mr. Robinson. Well, he knew Red Hynes pretty well. I used to help get him out of a mess every once in a while with the Red squad.
]Mr. Owens. Did you report to anyone his connection with the Communist Party?
Mr. Robinson. Oh, no, no. We had a strike to win. We had a strike to win and those things — during the strike I wanted to win that strike. It was no time to start aii}^ arguments about whether a man was a Communist or anything else at that time. I didn't want to bring anything of that kind in.
]Mr. Owens. Was there anything said about jurisdiction in that strike at that time.
Mr. Robinson. Yes; I believe there was a jurisdictional strike. Quite a number of the scenic artists, set designers, laborers; we had the carpenters in in the first part of the strike, but as I understood it. President Hutcheson was given the word that the strike was being conducted by Communists, so he ordei-ed the carpenters back on the job. They pulled out of the strike, oh, I think about a week after I came into the picture.
Mr. Owens. Did you ever meet Plutcheson ?
Mr. Robinson. No; I never have. I don't know Mr. Hutcheson. T don't know what the result is going to be, but I carry a card in Mr. Hutcheson 's union riirht now.