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MOTION-PICTURE JURISDICTIONAL DISPUTES 2397
artist, or somethiiifr. in the painters' union. He was a very nice "old lady." and was technically the head of the strike after it had been in profjress for two or three weeks. In other words, he was the front man. He made all the statements and acted as the supposed leader. However, I was still the guy behind the ouns with the strategic moves and so forth, and the winning of the strike was my responsibility.
Lessing was the front man that issued all the newspaper reports. All the newsmen out there knew what was going on.
Mr. McCann. INIay I ask one other question, because I want to be sure there is no point
]\Ir. Kearns. Mr. McCann, we are going to ask the witness to come back in the mornnig.
]Mr. ^NIcCann. Fine.
Mr. Kearns. Do you kave any questions in mind, Mr. Fisher?
Mr. Fisher. I may not be here in the morning, so may I ask him one or two ?
Mr. Kearxs. Surely.
^Iv. Fisher. You were shoAvn exhibit No. 1, the white card?
Mr. RoBixsoN. Yes, sir.
Mr. Fisher. You identified the one you saw in Sorrell's possession as a white card with the name of Herbert Sorrell written on it?
Mr. KoBixsoN. Herbert Stewart.
Mr. Fisher. With Herbert Stewart written on it?
Mr. RoinxsoN. That is right. We kidded about that name. That is what drew it to my attention.
Mr. Fisher. Your impression is that it was a folded card?
]\Ir. RoBixsoN. That is, as I can remember. He pulled it out with his billfold, see.
Mr. Fisher. Was it enclosed in a case ?
jNIr. RoBixsoN. No ; it was right in his billfold.
Mr. Fisher. Was it loose ; was the card itself loose ?
Mr. RoBixsox'. Yes; it was loose. He didn't have these whatchacall-'ems on there; he had it shoved in a pocket like, and he pulled it out and showed it to me. We were driving along in a car when he showed me this, and he stated he was a member of the Communist Party.
Mr. Fisher. Then you are not certain about the identity of this particular card ?
Mr. RoBiNsox. Well, it does look like it was something very similar to that.
Mr. Fisher. It was either this one or one very similar?
Mr. RoBixsox. That is right. I took it as just his means of proving to me that he was a member of the Communist Party.
Mr. Fisher. Did he at any time tell you how many members of the Communist Party there were that he was affiliated with?
Mr. RoBixsox. No ; he didn't have to tell me. I pretty well knew how many there were around Los Angeles because I had been on the spot with them.
I might say this, the Communists in the Los Angeles area — I used to have to go around with a bodyguard back there because of my physical condition, and they killed my bodyguards down in San Pedro trying to get me.
Mr. Fisher. Shot them ?
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