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JUVENILE DELINQUENCY 21 Chairman Kefauver. Mr. Daly, that's one of the things our com- mittee is interested in, is getting experiences that are worthwhile that people in other cities know about as to the result of some successful experience in a large city like San Francisco. We are glad to know about it. Is there anything else you want to tell us 'i Mr. Daly. There are so many phases to this problem—I might say this: That having read as much as I can on it, there is a great authority, Sir Bert, who has stated that there is some 160 separate reasons why we have delinquency, and any one of them may be the dominant cause of delinquency. And the longer I study it, the more I am convinced that that is true. That we have to come down to certain overall things, and I believe, as Chief Parker has stated, your family, your parents, and again, shall I say in your alcoholic pic- ture, where we know that delinquency comes from alcoholic parents— and another thing we have to realize in California is this new popu- lation that is coming in at an average—I believe the rate is today— of 1,000 a day. Another thing being that there is so many families moving. I believe the average move is six times a year in California. It is rather hard for a child growing up from any age up to 17 and 18, if his family is moving on an average of 6 or 8 times a year, to get any roots in the community. Chairman Kefauver. You don't mean that the average family in California moves 6 or 8 times in a year ? Mr. Daly. There are statistics to that effect. Chairman KEFAU^^R. That's a lot of moves. Mr. Daly. Yes. Chairman Kefauver. Anyway, 160 causes, one may be dominant as to this child and one may be an important thing as to another ? Mr. Daly. Yes. Lack of religious training and lack of education. And it can be biological, some difficulties the boy has. Chairman Kefauver. Mr. Bobo, any questions that you want to ask Mr. Daly? Mr. Bobo. No questions. Chairman Kefauver. Well, you give the attorney general our best wishes, and we thank you very much for your contribution. Mr. Daly. I am very happy to be here. Thank you, sir. I was very happy to meet you, Mr. Bobo. Mr. Friedman, May I have the attention of the committee for a moment ? Chairman Kefauver. What is your name ? Mr. Friedman. Phillip Friedman. Chairman Ivefauver. Phillip Friedman ? Mr. Friedman. That's right. I listened to Chief Parker and At- torney General Daly, and they confined most of their remarks to crime amongst adults and what was being done or what was not being done, and quoted statistics. And we are well aware that there are two kinds of lies Chairman Kefauver. Well, Mr. Friedman, just a minute, please. What is the question you wish to ask ? Mr. Friedman. The question is, The two speakers have not men- tioned anything in the line of prevention or what has been done by the two gentlemen in the departments that they represent to remove the power of suggestion to the young delinquent in becoming an addict.