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JUVENIL?: DELINQUENCY 67 Chairman Kefaumcr. In other words, Mi-. BogfTS, you think uiuiues- tionably a lot of the gang conflicts grow out of tliis antagonism of one against the other? Mr. BoGGS. Yes. Chairman Kefauver. And you feel that if you can <ret growimps to do right and understand, why, then the children are pretty likely to do that, also? Mr. BoGos. Yes. This we are trying to get over to the adult groups that our committee works with, and through the committee coordinat- ing, possibly throughout the country, we feel that if we can get the adults in the community to realize the effect of the expression and attitudes many times on juvenile delinquency, that this problem will in some measure be recognized and steps taken to do something about it. Chairman Kefau\'er. The only thing you can do is publicize the problem and do something about the educational process to remedy it. Mr. BoGGS. That's about it. Chairman Kefauver. Thank you very much, Mr. Boggs. Mr. Tutak, would you come around, sir ? STATEMENT OF JOHN TUTAK, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, LOS ANGELES TIMES BOYS CLUB, LOS ANGELES, CALIF. Chairman Kefauver. You are executive director of the Los Angeles Times Boys Club ? Mr. Tutak. Yes, sir. Chairman Kefauver. Will you tell us about it ? Mr. Tutak. The Los Angeles Times Boys Club is one of some four- hundred-odd members of the Boys Clubs of America. We have these units all over the United States, and the vast majority of them are sup- ported by the community chests in the cities in which these boys clubs are located. However, this one is supported completely by the Ix)S Angeles Times charities. I don't know what the other papers are going to say about this, but as long as they will excuse me I will proceed with it. Chairman Kefauv'er. We understand you are doing good work and we like to hear about good work, and I am sure they will appreciate it just like we do. Mr. Tutak. Incidentally, the philosophy and policies and the prac- tices which we follow at the Times Boys Club are similar to those fol- lowed by the other boys clubs all over the country, which are supported by ))rivate funds. Chairman Kefau\t:r. But your club is supported Mr. Tutak. Completely by the Los Angeles Times charities, j^es. Chairman Kefauver. By the Times charities ? Mr. Tutak. That is correct. Chairman Kefauver. How do you operate ? How numy boys do you have ( Mr. Tutak. We started in 1944 in an old building on North Broad- way, just a couple of miles up from here. Today we have a program housed in a facility for which the Times charities ex])en(led some $50(),0()(), and last year we sjient $1()S,()()() in oui- operating budget. We have a membership, last year, of 2,001 boys and 3r)() girls. We have a very, very simple philosophy, sir. Basically it is that people need peo-