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148 JUVENILE DELINQUENCY little ""TTnited Nations," as it represents all segments of the motion- picture industry, both labor and management. This inclndes all the guilds, all the unions, the various associations, et cetera. I might also add that it is quite distinguished from other industries, in that it is the only organization of its kind. I don't know of any other industry in the world where management and labor can sit down at a table and discuss common problems, common purposes and ideals, for the good and welfare of that industry. I am not talking about any labor discussions or conditions, or any- thing of the sort, except for the good and welfare of the industry itself. Our council has now been in effect for about 6 3'ears. Incidentally, Dore Schary was one of the founders of it, Avho was here yesterday. That gives you a little of the background. Chairman Kefauver. ]Mr. Greenspan, what do you mean by manage- ment and the workers ? Mr. Greenspan. I mean the representatives of the management and the representatives of the labor unions and guilds sit around a table and discuss common problems for the good and welfare of the industry. Chairman Kefaluer. That is the writers Mr. Greenspan. The writers, the actors, the art directors, A. F. of L. film unions, all the technical unions, cameramen, soundmen, and all the rest of them, as well as the Producers Association, the Independent Producers Association, and so forth. Chairman Kefauver. That is very interesting. How many unions are there in the industry, incidentally. Mr. Greenspan. There are about 26,1 believe, unions, actually trade unions in the setup of the American Federation of Labor studio unions. In addition to that, there are some half dozen or more guilds, some who are not affiliated, like the Screen Writers Guild or the Screen Directors Guild, the Art Directors Guild. jMr. Ford. 27 organizations or 27 chapters ? Mr. Greenspan. No, unions. There are some 26 actual locals of the various crafts in the A. F. or L. film studio union setup. Alto- gether I would say there is approximately between twenty and twenty- five thousand people employed in the motion-picture industry. Chairman Kefauver. Very well, Mr. Greenspan. Mr. Bobo, you had some specific questions to ask ? Mr. BoBO. "Yes. Mr. Greenspan, in the meetings of the Motion Picture Industry Council, you say that you take up certain of the problems of the motion-picture industry, and how to better foster the motion-picture industry ? ]VIr. Greenspan. That is right. Mr. BoBO. Do you take into consideration within these meetings the public disapproval of certain types of pictures and wliat can be done about that ? Mr. Greenspan. Well, we do from time to time, although this is not one of our main purposes. We are not concerned with attacks from the outside, outside the industry, as well as we are concerned with the good relations intra-industrywise among ourselves. We try not to infringe on the autonomy of the various organization members of our group. The matter of, let us say, so-called censor- ship or attack on movies, of course, we are extremely interested in,