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MOTION PICTURE COMMISSION. 131 Dr. Chasp:. No. sir. I did not pay more than 25 cents to see it on Broadway in New York City, and it was given within a stone's throw of my parish in Brooklyn!, but I think the regidar price of that place was 10 and 5 cents. Mr. TiiACiiRR. Wore there any chikh'en at the performances? Dr. Chase. I went to see ''The Traffic in Souls" about 11 o'clock in the morning or about 2 p. m., after school hours. Nine-tenths of the audience were men, and the character of men who went to see that picture convinced me that it was going to educate that crowd into making easy money by running liouses of prostitution. That was the effect of the play. I have only one minute more, and I want to speak of " The Inside of the White'Slave Traffic." " The Inside of the White Slave Traffic '• was presented to the National Board of Censorship two or three times, but they refused to give their approval of that film. Yet the film was shown just the same. Now, under what conditions did the National Board of Censorship view that picture? The picture peo- ple went on to show it without tb.eir approval. Mr. Seligsberg. Were not the producers convicted? Dr. Chase. Yes. Mr. Seligsberg. And did it not stop before they even completet^ the first performance? Dr. Chase. They first went to a judge and asked for an injunction restraining it, and he refused it. Then the producers were arrested, and it was taken before the grand jury, and the grand jury convicted the men. But my point is that the National Board of Censorship did not control that situation. Mr. Seeigsberg. It stopped the show. Dr. Chase. The National Board of Censorship did not. Mr. Seligsberg. It got the police to stop it before it was put on the boards and before they started to run the film off. Dr. Chase. The National Board of Censorship had nothing to do with it. Mr. Seligsberg. I think you are in error. Dr. Chase. I think not. However that may be, the manufacturei'S either made no agreement to obey the censorship board or the}' broke it. The Chair:man. I will say to the gentlemen present that this hear- ing will be continued next Tuesday at 10 o clock, and we will be glad to hear from anyone who wishes to appear then. (Thereupon the committee adjourned.) Committee on Education, House of Representatives, Tuesday, May i^, 19U. The committee this day met. Hon. Dudley M. Hughes (chairman) presiding. The Chairman. Dr. Chase, you have the floor this morning, ac- cording to the agreement made at our adjournment. STATEMENT OF REV. WILLIAM SHEAFE CHASE, D. D.— Continued. Dr. Chase. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, I ap- pear as the vice president of the Society for the Prevention of Crime