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MOTION PICTURE COMMISSION. 139 ]\rr. TowxEK. I uant to ask you wiiether yon believe that tlic salary of the chairman, $4,000 a year, and of "each other connnissioner, $:3.500 a year, wonld secure tlie proper kind of men? Dr. Chase. No. sir. It was only the feeling that Congress would not approve of highly paid men that led to suggesting that the low salaries be placed in tlie bill. Mr. TowxEiJ. Is it not true that the object of this bill is to makb^ the service pay for itself? Dr. Chase. Yes, sir. ]Mr. TowxEK. Tlien the film manufacturer ouuht to pay for the expense of this service, in your view ? Dr. Chase. Yes, sir. :Mr. TowxEij. That being true, it is to tlieir interest to have lirst- class men as well as to the interest of everybody else, is it not? Dr. Chase. Yes, sir: yes, sir. Mr. TowxEi;. And the kind of men who should be appointed as commissioners certainly could not l)e procured from such salaries as those ? Dr. Chase. It seems to me that th.e positions are more important than the members of the Interstate Commerce Commission. Mr. TowxER. There is another thing. The opponents of the bill spoke of the fact that these five men might not examine these films. Sections 3 and 4 provide that they might secure such assistance as they might need? Dr. Chase. I want to call your attention to that. That is one of the jjoints that I want to take up thi< morning. There are assistants and deputy connnissi(;ners i^rovided in sections o and 4 of the bill. iMr. TowxEi?. In view of the information that we have received from these manufacturers and others, do you think that $40,000 a year would be anything like a sufficient amount for this purpose? Dr. Chase. Xo. sir. Mr. TowxER. It would at least require, under the present system, 135 men to do this work? Dr. Chase. We went to the General Film Co. when we were drafting the bill, or getting the facts, and tried to get from them the facts which liave i)een given this morning and which were given at the last hearing. They said that they were unable to give them. We said that we wanted to do absolute justice, that we did not want to have anv unnecessary expense, and that we wanted to get the facts. Mr. TowxEi;. They have 1?)."> men. engaged on the general board work !)esides the 4 secretaries. We have here 5 commissioners. The o commissioners ought to receive a salary of not less than $5,000 or $0,000 a year? Dr. Chase. I should say $10,000 each. Mr. TowxER. The 135 men can not be cheap? Dr. Chase. With reference to the 135 men, you will remember that the testimony w^as that they Avere divided into eight parts. Mr. Schechter. Eight sections. Dr. Chase. Eight sections, and the testimony was that there was an average attendance of 4, with 13 or 14 members of each committee. According to their testimony it is not necessary to have quite so many men.