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1992 Program Notes We started with some dream images, a few actors, friends and relatives. The snow had melted and it was impossible to repeat. Standards of perfection applied to all the selves, the relationships, the layers of memory. Where are the tables for one? —Dorothy Wiley & Gunvor Nelson Before Need (1979), co-maker: Dorothy Wiley; 16mm, color, sound, 75 minutes Starring : Cleta Wiley and John Nesci Silver Spangled Hamburg and White Faced Black Spanish Saun Ellis and Marcus Mislin The Bog People and Queen Elizabeth Oona Nelson and Ethan Wiley Niagra Falls and Thou Shalt Bible Experts and Jungle Sounds Games, Puzzles, Surprises Sea and Scab Ray Rodrique and Vacuum Cleaner Gunvor Nelson and Dorothy Wiley were Muir Beach neighbors when they made their first film together in 1965. "It was our first serious effort," recalls Nelson... "It seemed so romantic to us to make films." That first film, Schmeerguntz, containing images and visions of the American household and way of life, won first prize at the Ann Arbor Film Festival and took prizes at Kent University and Chicago Art Institute film festivals. Since then, the women have made three other films together... Fog Pumas in 1967, a prize winner at the Belgium International Film Festival; Five Artists in 1969 and their latest effort. Before Need... Before Need... is described loosely as "sequences of images that express the emotional discoveries of an aging woman." The filmmakers point out, however, that the film exists on many levels and was created organically. Visual ideas ("things with mirrors," "images with chickens") were captured on film first, then dialogue without a definite story line was written and finally scenes with actors were shot in a month-long burst. The filmmakers derived some of their inspiration from dreams Wiley collected from children at Lagunitas School. "The parts of the dreams we responded to were the images we could relate to as adults," she says. "We think a lot of the film is absurd," Nelson elaborates. "It is on the brink of being too serious and too stupid. It's complex. There are all these unexpected things. Things are multi-layered. That's our point of view. The beauty the woman sees in the different roles she's taken in her life and looking back on those states of being is both beautiful, pathetic and absurd." A painter until she began making films in the '60s, Nelson... explains her attraction to the medium of film. "For me it was a combination of the visual—within that the use of color and black and white—with the timing, the dance, the motion, plus whatever else there is—the story, sound. It's so multi-media it's almost too overwhelming." Wiley, a former English teacher... saw new creative frontiers in filmmaking. "I find my interest in films peculiar because I' m not interested in machines, and there are an awful lot of machines involved in making films," she says. "But it was such a new medium. The possibilities that hadn't been explored were tremendous." Both women say that the creative process hasn't changed much between the first film 14 years ago and their latest work. "We were 91